E36M3 #1427

Thursday, June 28, 2001 08:05:22

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: BMW must be thrilled about this web site... - from Aleksandr Milewski
#2. Re: [E36M3] What Fluid in Euro 6-Speed and a BMW "warning" - from Andrew E. Kalman
#3. Re: [E36M3] x brace install question - from Bora Akyol
#4. Re: C32 AMG vs E46M3 - from Bora Akyol
#5. Re: [E36M3] What Fluid in Euro 6-Speed and a BMW "warning" - from Bora Akyol
#6. Re: [E36M3] Anti-squeal for R4s? - from Jeremy Lucas
#7. Run Flat tires - from Steve D'Gerolamo
#8. E46 M3 from the viewpoint of an owner vs weenie who won't sell - from David Hogg
#9. Re: The 'ordeal' - from Sue Kraft
#10. FS: '98 M3/4 spd w/o sunroof - from Dan Miley

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#1. Re: [E36M3] Re: BMW must be thrilled about this web site... - from Aleksandr Milewski
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:00:45 -0700 From: Aleksandr Milewski <n6mod@milewski.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: BMW must be thrilled about this web site... At 9:39 PM -0700 on 6/27/01, Robert Chay commanded the electrons to create a missive titled "Re: [E36M3] Re: BMW must be thrilled about this web sit": |I read somewhere that it was gonna be remedied. But on the wrong engine! They're |offering a 5 (or 6) speed with the 240 but not the 320 c-class. Talk about ass |backwards. | |-Bobby And this is one of the primary reasons I own BMWs. They're the only automaker on the planet that lets you have the big motor and a stick in the same car. If only I could get an S62 and a 6-speed in an E38. ;) -Z -- --------------------------------------------------------------------- Aleksandr Milewski BMWCCA #166568 SysAdmin, 530i.org '95 540i/6spd n6mod@milewski.org '00 740i Sport Ben Lomond, CA '00 M Coupe

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#2. Re: [E36M3] What Fluid in Euro 6-Speed and a BMW "warning" - from Andrew E. Kalman
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:19:01 -0700 From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] What Fluid in Euro 6-Speed and a BMW "warning" Luis Vera asks: >What sorts of "balking"? How bad was it? I'm thinking of switching from ATF >to MTF, since it's thicker fluid, to protect my tranny pinions. First and >second gear pinions are beginning to sound a bit when driving the car for a >prolonged period of time. Hmmm... I wonder if I spelled it incorrectly -- is it "baulking"? Anyway, I would say that once per day, on the track, I would find myself typically unable to get into 3rd -- sometimes it would resist without any expensive noises, and sometimes the noises were very expensive. I'd have to back off, double-clutch, and try again. Very disconcerting. Since switching to ATF, I have had no such problems. I doubt my driving has changed, and I've been driving more miles per day (300 or so), so it's not like I'm easy on the tranny. > >What would you suggest? ATF. MTL isn't bad, but ATF seems better suited. My tranny (and whole car) has 13,000 miles on it, of which the last 5,500 are race miles. I have MTL in a Getrag 265 (E30 M3 'box, among others) with over 100,000 miles, and it shifts like new, so I was surprised to find that MTL was not to the liking of my M3's tranny. > >BTW, do you know where to get Redline online? Thanks. I use Pelican Parts for that sort of thing. They have a web site, but I usually call them -- one of the founders and I go way back. -- ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com

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#3. Re: [E36M3] x brace install question - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:27:26 -0700 From: Bora Akyol <akyol@akyol.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] x brace install question Do not over-tighten the bolts either. Bora > From: "Joe Dyer" <joedyer@home.com> > Reply-To: "Joe Dyer" <joedyer@home.com> > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 00:05:10 -0500 > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] x brace install question > > Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:08:02 -0700 > From: "Joe Dyer" <joedyer@home.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] x brace install question > > Shel, > > I believe your model year car came with the very important nutserts on the > front cross-member. That's all you need! Absolutely do not reinstall the > single bar with the cross member. If you have a sensitive oneness with your > car, you will detect a very slight improvement in stiffness during > cornering. > > Joe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Shelhart2@aol.com> > To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 6:25 PM > Subject: [E36M3] x brace install question > > > | Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 21:19:24 EDT > | From: Shelhart2@aol.com > | Subject: x brace install question > | > | I picked up an x brace from my local dealer and had to get the bolts > | from a > | hardware store. The UUC site had the correct metric sizes and torque > | specs. > | Question is ... I have the brace and 6 bolts. Besides taking the stock > | rear > | bar off is there anything else I'm missing or that I should be aware of? > | > | Anything this seemingly simple always has a glitch with my experience > | ... TIA > | > | Shel Hart > | 1998 M3 > | > | > | ************************************************************* > | List Commands > | UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > | DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > | GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > | > | To issue a command/request to the server: > | Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > | subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > | ************************************************************* > | > | > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >

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#4. Re: C32 AMG vs E46M3 - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:30:57 -0700 From: Bora Akyol <akyol@akyol.org> Subject: Re: C32 AMG vs E46M3 If the AMG automatic in the C32 is anything like the one in the 911 Turbo, the C32 may be a worthwhile rival to the E46 M3. Every single Porsche rag that tests the 911Turbo tiptronic raves about the transmission in that car. It apparently reads g-forces both lateral and in the direction of motion and downshifts when braking hard to get the car set-up for a turn and then **holds the gear** as you modulate the throttle to rotate the car. This is pretty good stuff for an automatic transmission. I still prefer a stick shift/ As an added bonus my Mercedes dealer is taking orders at MSRP and even willing to do European delivery. Bora > From: Aleksandr Milewski <n6mod@milewski.org> > Reply-To: Aleksandr Milewski <n6mod@milewski.org> > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 00:15:13 -0500 > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: BMW must be thrilled about this web site... > > Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:00:45 -0700 > From: Aleksandr Milewski <n6mod@milewski.org> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] Re: BMW must be thrilled about this web site... > > At 9:39 PM -0700 on 6/27/01, Robert Chay commanded the electrons to > create a missive titled "Re: [E36M3] Re: BMW must be thrilled about > this web sit": > |I read somewhere that it was gonna be remedied. But on the wrong > engine! They're > |offering a 5 (or 6) speed with the 240 but not the 320 c-class. Talk about > ass > |backwards. > | > |-Bobby > > And this is one of the primary reasons I own BMWs. They're the only > automaker on the planet that lets you have the big motor and a stick > in the same car. If only I could get an S62 and a 6-speed in an E38. > ;) > > -Z > -- > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Aleksandr Milewski BMWCCA #166568 > SysAdmin, 530i.org '95 540i/6spd > n6mod@milewski.org '00 740i Sport > Ben Lomond, CA '00 M Coupe > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >

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#5. Re: [E36M3] What Fluid in Euro 6-Speed and a BMW "warning" - from Bora Akyol
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Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:32:23 -0700 From: Bora Akyol <akyol@akyol.org> Subject: Re: [E36M3] What Fluid in Euro 6-Speed and a BMW "warning" AFAIK, BMW recommends ATF for manual transmissions on 95 M3s like yours and mine. Bora > From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> > Reply-To: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> > Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 00:25:12 -0500 > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] What Fluid in Euro 6-Speed and a BMW "warning" > > Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:19:01 -0700 > From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> > Subject: Re: [E36M3] What Fluid in Euro 6-Speed and a BMW "warning" > > Luis Vera asks: > > >> What sorts of "balking"? How bad was it? I'm thinking of switching from ATF >> to MTF, since it's thicker fluid, to protect my tranny pinions. First and >> second gear pinions are beginning to sound a bit when driving the car for a >> prolonged period of time. > > Hmmm... I wonder if I spelled it incorrectly -- is it "baulking"? > > Anyway, I would say that once per day, on the track, I would find > myself typically unable to get into 3rd -- sometimes it would resist > without any expensive noises, and sometimes the noises were very > expensive. I'd have to back off, double-clutch, and try again. Very > disconcerting. Since switching to ATF, I have had no such problems. I > doubt my driving has changed, and I've been driving more miles per > day (300 or so), so it's not like I'm easy on the tranny. > >> >> What would you suggest? > > ATF. MTL isn't bad, but ATF seems better suited. My tranny (and whole > car) has 13,000 miles on it, of which the last 5,500 are race miles. > I have MTL in a Getrag 265 (E30 M3 'box, among others) with over > 100,000 miles, and it shifts like new, so I was surprised to find > that MTL was not to the liking of my M3's tranny. > >> >> BTW, do you know where to get Redline online? Thanks. > > I use Pelican Parts for that sort of thing. They have a web site, but > I usually call them -- one of the founders and I go way back. > > > -- > > ______________________________________ > Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message to the email address e36m3@bmw-m.net. > ************************************************************* > >

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Anti-squeal for R4s? - from Jeremy Lucas
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 06:30:34 -0400 From: "Jeremy Lucas" <jlucas@columbus.rr.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Anti-squeal for R4s? Funny, my Cool Willy's from Turner (formerly Cool Carbons) seem like they are exactly the opposite. I swapped them about a week before the track event and they were as quiet as stock. During the event and now afterwards they squeal like banshee's 85% of the time, so much so that I plan on swapping them back out tonight. I try and heat them up a little today before doing the swap to see if they get any better. Jeremy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aleksandr Milewski" <n6mod@milewski.org> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2001 11:05 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Anti-squeal for R4s? > At 1:35 PM -0500 on 6/27/01, peter@guagenti.com commanded the > electrons to create a missive titled "[E36M3] Anti-squeal for R4s?": > Get 'em hot. > > I realize this isn't an answer, but on my M coupe, my R4S pads (front > only in my case) squeal like a banshee most of the time, but if I > take the car to the track, it's a couple of weeks before they start > making noise again. > > And I've run them on my Miata for a long time without so much as a whimper. > > -Zandr

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#7. Run Flat tires - from Steve D'Gerolamo
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 06:31:19 -0400 From: "Steve D'Gerolamo" <steved3@idt.net> Subject: Run Flat tires There's a rule in physics that says "two objects can't occupy the same space at the same time". Part of the E46 M3 exhaust system runs through where the spare would normally be, therefore it can't fit there. That's what I meant. While I agree with you (I'd rather have both), the spare-tire-in-a-can thing works pretty well, so it wouldn't bother me much. Personally, I've had a few flat tires, and the only time I resorted to changing it was because I didn't have "the can". In the other instances, I used "the can", even though a spare was available. =================================================== With Corvette and Porsche experimenting with run-flat tires, I'm surprised BMW has gone this route with the M3 and M5. SD (PS- many of the high end shops are already considering a dedicated tire changer in their service area for these difficult to change tires)

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#8. E46 M3 from the viewpoint of an owner vs weenie who won't sell - from David Hogg
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 06:41:45 -0700 From: "David Hogg" <springwood@blazenet.net> Subject: E46 M3 from the viewpoint of an owner vs weenie who won't sell Josh wrote: >I stopped by this website ... BIG SNIP ... Regards from a very happy M3 driver< AMEN! You preach it Brother Josh! Dave Hogg

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#9. Re: The 'ordeal' - from Sue Kraft
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 06:34:55 -0500 From: Sue Kraft <skraft1@new.rr.com> Subject: Re: The 'ordeal' Roman wrote: > I wasn't here when you were having an "ordeal" with BMW. Can you repeat > what happened? I used to have a number of very helpful and informative technical service bulletins on my web site until BMW threatened to sue me if I didn't take them down. It wasn't that they didn't want us to see the service bulletins, they just didn't want me to give them away for free. BMW wants us to pay to get technical information about potential problems with our vehicles. Suzy

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#10. FS: '98 M3/4 spd w/o sunroof - from Dan Miley
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Date: Thu, 28 Jun 2001 09:01:37 -0400 From: Dan Miley <dmiley@rcn.com> Subject: FS: '98 M3/4 spd w/o sunroof No, not my car, but a guy in Cambridge, MA is selling one. I had to look all over for mine, so I know that this configuration is hard to find. An M3 sedan without sunroof is a great config for a taller person who wants to do driving schools or racing. Pass this along to anyone who may be interested. I have not seen the car, not do I know the owner, so I can't vouch for either. I'm just passing this on in case anyone on the list is looking for this hard to find M3 model. --Dan http://www.turnermotorsport.com/forsale/bmw_sale_info.asp?ID=10176 M3 sedan - 1998 Asking Price: $29,500 OBO Seller: Eric Robinson Location: Cambridge, MA USA Email: ewrobins@fas.harvard.edu Date Posted: 6/27/2001 5:25:16 PM No sunroof! 35K miles. Cosmos black exterior, grey leather interior. No modifications. Only options are cruise control & split-folding rear seats, plus the standard '98 features (5-speed, ASC+T, side airbags, etc.). Still under warranty (til 12/01). Excellent condition, original owner, all service records, always garaged, oil changed every 3-4000 miles, never smoked in, no modifications ever, mostly driven in Florida but now in Cambridge MA, pampered everywhere. New M coming.

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