E36M3 #1408

Sunday, June 24, 2001 23:26:02

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Front air dam grill and brakes vent - from Mel Silva
#2. More ? on tires. - from Mel Silva
#3. Rim Sizes for Winter Tires - from SWKAUF@aol.com
#4. How to Replace the CF Center Console [long] - from Andrew E. Kalman
#5. r0wr!~~~ - from Kit Wetzler
#6. Re: [E36M3] r0wr!~~~ - from Chester Wong
#7. Big Brake Wheels - from DrDan976@aol.com
#8. [Fwd: New sending units] - from Sue Kraft
#9. Re: [E36M3] More ? on tires. - from Chris Teague
#10. Autocrossing an E46 M3 - from Chris Teague

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#1. RE: [E36M3] Front air dam grill and brakes vent - from Mel Silva
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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 09:07:07 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <mel.silva@pdq.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Front air dam grill and brakes vent I too had considered making my own out of that aluminum mesh you wrote about. Home Depot has it in sheets large enough for the application, but in the concrete/building materials section. I believe contractors use it for stucco work. Anyway, the point is, I decided to wait and get high dollar BMW part to use as a template and make the aluminum version a duplicate of the BMW part. So, having the BMW part and shelving it for later use after using it to make the stronger version seemed to me, the best option. I have the Luxo package but like the look of the non Luxo front-end. I will change it eventually, but there is so much other stuff to do first. I finally got my replacement rim (17x8.5) from the dealer so now I need to get a set of new tires. -----Original Message----- From: Sean W. Smith [mailto:seansmith@nc.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, June 24, 2001 8:35 AM To: E36M3 Subject: RE: [E36M3] Front air dam grill and brakes vent Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 09:26:26 -0400 From: "Sean W. Smith" <seansmith@nc.rr.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Front air dam grill and brakes vent All, Better Yet replace it with a peice of black gutter guard you can get at Lowes or Home Depot for ~$0.89. Michael Lawrence did this on my car and its been very reliable and about 1/100 th the cost of the BMW Part... Sean -----Original Message----- From: NickG [mailto:nikog@MediaOne.net] Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 8:05 PM To: E36M3 Subject: Re: [E36M3] Front air dam grill and brakes vent Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2001 20:04:29 -0400 From: "NickG" <nikog@MediaOne.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Front air dam grill and brakes vent > I don't have the luxury package. Are you saying that the one with the two > vertical lines are for the luxury package? Anywhere I can see pictures > online so I can select and decide? Please advise. Thanks. There were two types of grills offered, the non-luxury and the luxury version. The non-luxury grill looked like a black honeycomb mesh pattern. The luxury grill was painted body color and has 3 or 4 horizontal slats, with vertical support slats in the back. Since you don't have the luxury package, you must have the mesh-style grill. I believe its part number is 51-11-2-250-685. Nick ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. ************************************************************* ************************************************************* List Commands UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). To issue a command/request to the server: Send a message with the command you wish executed as the subject of the message. *************************************************************

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#2. More ? on tires. - from Mel Silva
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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 09:26:30 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <mel.silva@pdq.net> Subject: More ? on tires. As I mentioned in the "front air dam grill" post, my dealer finally came around and got me the here-to-fore missing 17 x 8.5" M Contour Rim that was missing when I bought the car. So, now I have 3 17 x 7.5" with 225 45's and 2 17 x 8.5" one without a tire. All the tires need to be replaced. So, given the facts that; A)I do not autocross the car, B)My car will see ZERO track duty, and C)I think there are a total of 4 roads in Houston that have corners were you do not have to come to a complete stop before turning [aside; My Gawd am I bored with driving here after learning to drive in California with the Santa Cruz mountains and Hwy 9 in my back yard]. But I digress. I need to buy tires that have a mediocre stick-em factor and a very good treadwear rating. Does anyone have any recommendations for me? TIA, Mel

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#3. Rim Sizes for Winter Tires - from SWKAUF@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 11:31:10 EDT From: SWKAUF@aol.com Subject: Rim Sizes for Winter Tires I know it's June, but I need to decide on some wheels now. Has anyone run snows on an M3 on a staggered 17" (17x7.5 and 17x 8.5) set? I can get a staggered set of M3 wheels or I can put together, with my spare and a extra wheel I have, a set of 17x7.5 all around. Any info as to which setup people have used and their feedback would be appreciated. I have an opportunity to get these wheels now which is why I have this off season question. I have ruled out using 16" wheels. Thanks, Steve 98 M3/4 94 RX7 R2

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#4. How to Replace the CF Center Console [long] - from Andrew E. Kalman
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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 09:21:37 -0700 From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> Subject: How to Replace the CF Center Console [long] Hi All. Seeing that the CF center console cover costs (retails) around $700 at the local dealer, and the CF interior parts in the LWT have a tendency to warp over time due to heat, I decided to remove mine and replace it with the stock part while the original CF part was still in excellent condition. The part number you need is 51 16 8 167 431. It is just like the stock LWT center console cover, but not in CF. Dealer cost (wholesale) is around $100. To remove the CF part and replace it with the stock part, here's a sequence of events you can use. Please read them completely and ensure you have all the necessary tools and competence before beginning. 1) Disconnect the battery. Disconnect shift lever boot by pulling it up at the four corners -- it's held in with four clips. No need to remove the shift lever knob -- but you do need to get this stuff a little out of the way because you'll have to move the center console out by 1-2" (see below). 2) Pull up the foam insulator below. No need to remove it entirely. 3) Pop the two window switches and the hazard switch out of the center console cover and disconnect them. 4) Using something plastic, wide and thin (I use bondo applicators), push it into the space between the bottom of the OBC and the top of the plastic "panel" that has the little cubbyhole for glasses, etc. What you're doing is forcing up a plastic wedge on the bottom of the OBC. Once it's completely up, the bottom of the OBC will cant out slightly, and then you can pull it out completely. There's also a finger-sized hole beneath the OBC that can be used to persuade it out of its mounting location. Remove the cubbyhole plastic by pulling it up. Disconnect the 12V receptacle, noting that the hot/+12 lead has a plastic insulator around it. You can disconnect the OBC's wiring harness, or keep it in place and out of the way. If you car has additional little switches there (e.g. seat heaters), you'll need to disconnect them, too. 5) Remove (or move back by 1-2") the tunnel console (where the handbrake is). It is held down by six screws -- two plastic screws at the bottom of each ashtray well, one beneath the rear ashtray well, and one that's visible through the hazard switch hole in the center console. 6) Remove the glovebox (you can get directions on where to do that elsewhere). It _may_ be possible to skip this step, but I haven't tried it. If you must remove it, know that there are 8 Phillips-head screws and one 10mm hex-head screw that must be removed, AND you are working near an airbag (if your car has one, I removed mine when the cage went in). 7) Remove the covering under the steering wheel that's in front of the driver's knees -- it's just three screws and a clip built into the part. 8) Remove the nut (10mm head) that holds the center console down against the car's center tunnel. It's visible once the tunnel console has been removed. 9) Remove the two Torx-head (sorry, don't remember the size, but it's quite small) vertical screws that hold the top of the center console and cover to the HVAC control panel part of the dash. 10) The CF center console cover is held in place on the center console with 6 screws -- look at the new part for reference. Two can be seen in the area that was previously hidden by the console tunnel. Two screw into the sides of the center console roughly in line with the top of the shift lever cutout. The last two are at the extreme top corners, and unfortunately there are some steel tubular columns that interfere with removing them -- those steel columns are the reason why the lower dash coverings on either side (6 & 7 above) must also be removed -- ugh! Move the center console out by 1-2", and then you get get to those two screws. 11) My car also had one extra screw that held the center console (not the cover) in place -- it was on the passenger side, about level with the OBS, and screwed into the center console through a sheet metal bracket. That screw had to be removed before the console could be pulled out. 12) Reassembly is the reverse of removal, but use the new (all-black) center console cover this time.. I know this may be heresy, but now that I removed all the CF (except for the doorsill pieces) and replaced them with the stock, black parts, I think the car looks better. And I don't have to worry about the obscene replacement costs should the CF warp ... -- ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com

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#5. r0wr!~~~ - from Kit Wetzler
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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 09:32:10 -0700 From: "Kit Wetzler" <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> Subject: r0wr!~~~ some low life stole the ///M badge off my car! grrrrrrrrr... At least they didn't scratch the paint that badly... what's best for taking the remaining adhesive off? goof-oof? thanks guys. -kit 97 _3/4 :(

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#6. Re: [E36M3] r0wr!~~~ - from Chester Wong
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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 10:12:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] r0wr!~~~ Sorry to hear about the defacing of your car. Citrus degreaser or 3M adhesive remover would do a good job. I'm heavily considering removing my badge now since everyone on the road seems to have ill feelings towards the M badge... Chester --- Kit Wetzler <kitwetzler@mindspring.com> wrote: > some low life stole the ///M badge off my car! grrrrrrrrr... At least they > didn't scratch the paint that badly... what's best for taking the remaining > adhesive off? goof-oof? thanks guys. ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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#7. Big Brake Wheels - from DrDan976@aol.com
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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 15:51:32 EDT From: DrDan976@aol.com Subject: Big Brake Wheels I was just wondering what wheels other M3 drivers who have big brake kits. Right now I have Stoptech big brakes that require a 15mm wheel spacer. I do not what to use a spacer that big, but the calipers are preventing me from going smaller. I am getting a bit of rubbing on the front left and have decided to get wheels that fit the big brakes. What do you guys recommend? Any one have a set for sale? Thanks Dan Wang 95 M3

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#8. [Fwd: New sending units] - from Sue Kraft
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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 17:50:33 -0500 From: Sue Kraft <skraft1@new.rr.com> Subject: [Fwd: New sending units] -------- Original Message -------- Subject: New sending units Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 15:28:39 -0700 From: Jim Powell <jsp98m3@apexcone.com> Don't know if word is out yet to the general public, I haven't seen anything on the net, but BMW now has redesigned sending units for the E36 fuel gauge problem. Apparently wider, gold plated contacts. I'm trying to find a dealer who has them in stock to get mine replaced. I'm sure I have the problem ;) Warranty, doncha know. Jim

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#9. Re: [E36M3] More ? on tires. - from Chris Teague
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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 20:57:42 -0700 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@home.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] More ? on tires. Mel, I ordered a set of Kumho Ecsta 712's from www.tirerack.com. I think they are about the cheapest 17" tires in the M3 sizes. The stick is real good. Not quite up to the stock MXX3's, but not far off. They seem to be wearing well, but I have only had them for a few months, so that is hard to tell. At least they are cheap to replace when they do wear out. Chris 97 M3/4 ----- Original Message ----- > Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 09:26:30 -0500 > From: "Mel Silva" <mel.silva@pdq.net> > Subject: More ? on tires. > > As I mentioned in the "front air dam grill" post, my dealer finally came > around and got me the here-to-fore missing 17 x 8.5" M Contour Rim that was > missing when I bought the car. So, now I have 3 17 x 7.5" with 225 45's and > 2 17 x 8.5" one without a tire. All the tires need to be replaced. > > So, given the facts that; > A)I do not autocross the car, > B)My car will see ZERO track duty, and > C)I think there are a total of 4 roads in Houston that have corners were you > do not have to come to a complete stop before turning [aside; My Gawd am I > bored with driving here after learning to drive in California with the Santa > Cruz mountains and Hwy 9 in my back yard]. But I digress. > I need to buy tires that have a mediocre stick-em factor and a very good > treadwear rating. Does anyone have any recommendations for me? > > TIA, > Mel

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#10. Autocrossing an E46 M3 - from Chris Teague
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Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2001 21:17:42 -0700 From: "Chris Teague" <cteague@home.com> Subject: Autocrossing an E46 M3 A new autocrosser brought a 2 week old E46 M3 to our local SCCA event today. Since I was running my E36 M3, and was one of the Novice instructors, the owner asked me to ride with him. The car was totally stock down to the tires and air pressure. =20 =20 Since the autocross was mostly middle of second gear=20 corners for my E36, I did not expect to feel a lot of power difference. =20 But the power difference was amazing. Even with street tires, the E46 was pulling much harder than my E36. He could get higher strait speeds, but it was more difficult to put down the power with street tires of course. =20 The car was very well balanced. I was suprised. I think it will be quicker than the E36 on street tires. =20 But with current and proposed SCCA classing, this car goes up against the Z06 Corvette. While I was impressed with the E46 M3, I am sure the Z06 is much faster. =20 Chris 97 M3/4 And wanting an E46 M3 now... If it only had 4 doors...

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