E36M3 #1356

Wednesday, June 06, 2001 16:04:11

This digest contains the following messages:

#1. Re: UUC exhaust and Borla + AA - from S Lafredo
#2. RE: [E36M3] visit to Tate BMW Annapolis, MD - from Jim Bassett
#3. RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC exhaust and Borla + AA - from Steve Hazard
#4. RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC exhaust and Borla + AA - from Chester Wong
#5. Euro Car Rental Info Needed - from eevans@planetc.com
#6. RE: FS: Four 17x8 Borbet T's with staggered Pilot Sports, 75% remaining - from Paul Kopecki
#7. RE: [E36M3] Re: Replacement headlight from Bekkers - from Jim Bassett
#8. race - from Mark Greene
#9. PTG M3 for sale - from Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com
#10. RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC exhaust and Borla + AA - from Mel Silva

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#1. Re: UUC exhaust and Borla + AA - from S Lafredo
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:29:27 -0700 (PDT) From: S Lafredo <slafredo@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: UUC exhaust and Borla + AA --- Mel Silva <mel.silva@pdq.net> wrote: > -----Original Message----- > From: S Lafredo [mailto:slafredo@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:43 PM > > <snip>... > > I have an AA Gen II and love it. Not too loud and NO droning. Not ^^^ - should have been III > So, one question. Would the AA Gen III exhaust pass the SO test? Is > my wife going to complain about my car being too loud? Not sure. My friend definitely knows it's different but she doesn't complain, especially if I threaten to drive the '89 iX instead ;) Before installing the new exhaust I fired up the car w/o one in the garage, door open :) and she came running in asking what I did to the car NOW! After that the muffler sounded like a lamb. :)) __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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#2. RE: [E36M3] visit to Tate BMW Annapolis, MD - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:39:59 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jbassett@geysernetworks.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] visit to Tate BMW Annapolis, MD > coolant flush: $70 > oil change with synthetic oil: $65 > Inspection I: $350 > Inspection II: $570 These prices seem reasonable. > rotors/pads/etc for 4 wheels: $1038 ($600 or so is parts, > about $300 for > labor. They just finished a brake job for another M3 owner.) OH MY GOD!!! That is just plain ridiculous. On an E36 M3? Wow, that seems like too much. Let's take a look at what it would cost a DIY'er: Rotors F: $120 (From Steve D'G) Rotors R: $160 (est., from last time I bought a set at the dealer) Pads F: $48 (Pagids, Steve D'G) Pads R: $40 (Est, from Steve D'G - his price list didn't list a set for 96-on, but the 95s should be the same) Brake wear sensor F: $13 (if one actually replaces these :-)) Brake wear sensor R: $10 So, let's see, we've got $391 in parts. Toss in another $10-$15 for anti-squeal & anti-sieze compound if needed, and you're at about $410. The job shouldn't take more than 2 hours (I can change pads on all 4 corners & front rotors in a bit over an hour at home - length of time increases proportionally to number of people who help :-)). It's really not a difficult job, and for some of us is actually quite fun. Depending on what your time is worth (mine apparently isn't worth much :-)), you've spent about half what the dealer charged. (Some long-time list members may recall that in the past I've somewhat defended dealers. But the more I work on the car myself, and have it worked on at a qualified, reputable, INDEPENDENT BMW mechanic, the more I realize how expensive some dealer services really are.) Anyway, just my long 2 cents (and after just showing another list member how easy brake pad & rotor changing is last night), Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4 - most work done by owner, unless it's big and/or messy

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#3. RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC exhaust and Borla + AA - from Steve Hazard
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:47:26 -0400 From: Steve Hazard <SHazard@nhboston.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC exhaust and Borla + AA I recently got around to finally treating myself to an exhaust.....I've heard most of them over the last couple of years BTW....I decided to wait for the AA Gen III.... It is perfect....I'm in my 40's and did'nt want anything to loud, or drone/resonation at Cruising RPM's....This exhaust is the real deal....Quiet at idle, no drone on the highway, but open up the throttle and wow! Also the fit and finish is flawless.... Here's a recent Autocross clip of my car and you can hear the exhaust... http://www.ziplink.net/~ctroiane/bmwx.html Scroll to the bottom and click on the Dakar Videos.... Last, the SO does not even know I replaced the exhaust :-) It's that quiet..Until you step on it... Regards, Steve Boston Chapter Autocross Chair You asked> So, one question. Would the AA Gen III exhaust pass the SO test? Is my wife going to complain about my car being too loud?

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#4. RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC exhaust and Borla + AA - from Chester Wong
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:50:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Chester Wong <chester_p_wong@yahoo.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC exhaust and Borla + AA > -----Original Message----- > From: S Lafredo [mailto:slafredo@yahoo.com] > Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:43 PM > > I have an AA Gen II and love it. Not too loud and NO droning. Not what > you want if you like that Harley sound. > > > So, one question. Would the AA Gen III exhaust pass the SO test? Is my > wife going to complain about my car being too loud? > > >M I have a gen III AA exhaust and my girlfriend doesn't complain. The only thing she does complain is when I floor it when we go under overpasses or through tunnels :) But that's more for her neck and not ears :) Actually, when she hears other cars with the stock exhausts, she remarks how wimpy the other cars sound :) Chester ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/

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#5. Euro Car Rental Info Needed - from eevans@planetc.com
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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 15:59:45 -0400 From: eevans@planetc.com Subject: Euro Car Rental Info Needed Hi, Thanks to all of you guys/gals out there that wrote me some very helpful suggestions on Euro car rental. Evan '95 M3

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#6. RE: FS:  Four 17x8 Borbet T's with staggered Pilot Sports, 75% remaining - from Paul Kopecki
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:05:20 -0500 From: "Paul Kopecki" <Paul_Kopecki@transwestern.net> Subject: RE: FS: Four 17x8 Borbet T's with staggered Pilot Sports, 75% remaining From my 1999 M3 Coupe, wheels are like new, except one small rash mark. 2 225/45 ZR-17, and 2 245/40 ZR-17. $800/OBO, in Chicago. -----Original Message----- From: E36M3 [mailto:e36m3@bmw-m.net] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 2:33 PM To: E36M3 Subject: [E36M3] E36M3 #1355 This digest contains the following messages: 1. frayed seat stitching by: Allen Reyes <allenrey14@hotmail.com> 2. UUC Shifters and 325is shifter by: Dorffer, Rich <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> 3. Re: Replacement headlight from Bekkers by: Davy Chou <chou.d@apple.com> 4. Re: UUC exhaust and Borla by: Roger Baker <rbaker@velodyne.com> 5. Re: UUC exhaust and Borla by: S Lafredo <slafredo@yahoo.com> 6. rear tire wear by: Dorffer, Rich <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> 7. Re: [E36M3] Race track is safer than street....(was Re: Sorry, but I just have ...) by: Luis Veras <veras@tricom.net> 8. visit to Tate BMW Annapolis, MD by: Kevin M. Gregg <kevingregg@home.com> 9. RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC exhaust and Borla + AA by: Mel Silva <mel.silva@pdq.net> 10. PTG M3 on ebay by: Michael Lawrence <95m3ltw@home.com> -------------------- 1 -------------------- Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 15:53:07 -0000 From: "Allen Reyes" <allenrey14@hotmail.com> Subject: frayed seat stitching <html><DIV>How do you stop the stitching on the side bolsters of our seats from fraying?  When I noticed the wild thread come undone I covered the front seats with some sheepskin, but I miss the look of the sporty seat underneath.</DIV> <DIV>Allen</DIV> <DIV>98 m3/2 </DIV><br clear=all><hr>Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at <a href="http://explorer.msn.com">http://explorer.msn.com</a><br></p></html > -------------------- 2 -------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 12:11:22 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: UUC Shifters and 325is shifter Just as another data point, I recently had installed (Brett Anderson - Koala Motorsport) a UUC Comp Evo and delrin bushings in my 95 M3 (against the cautioned advice of certain well respected BMW aficionados/gurus) and I thought it was pretty notchy at first and the throw was very short compared to the stock knob (less than advertised based on my perception and measurements). I was unsure if I was going to like it or not. I drove it at Mid-Ohio that same weekend and have driven it since. My impression now is the money was well spent. I like the additional feel of the shifter and the additional NVH is reasonable. I no longer feel it is too short (just about right in my opinion) and I like the more defined shift pattern. Also, the additional/increased shifting effort or resistance I feel is manageable. Only engaging reverse is overly difficult and I consider it reasonable for a person of my size/strength but somewhat extreme for the average enthusiast. It's reverse though so big whoop. Also, I have Red Line ATF in the transmission and the UUC/320i tranny mount enforcers. My 95 M3 shifter went into my 325is (along with all new parts). Whoooweee was that ever a world of difference and the 325is is so much better than before. Since the stock 325is shifter was all completely original (kind of like the RSM's I did recently), the shifter was completely kaput. There was so much slop in the shifter it would bang against the console when trying to engage reverse. It is much better (although it does feel Links to the vendors aforementioned: http://www.uucmotorwerks.com/ http://www.koalamotorsport.com/ Regards, Rich 95 M3 - shifts are much more crisp, shorter and well defined 89 325is - shifts.....what can I say but much better than OE and worlds better than the what it replaced -------------------- 3 -------------------- Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 09:45:08 -0700 From: Davy Chou <chou.d@apple.com> Subject: Re: Replacement headlight from Bekkers Hi, Does anyone on the list have their E36/M3 headlight assembly replaced from Bekkiers (ellipsoid)? Bekkers has a set of ellipsoid for about $450.00. If so, would you share your experience as to how much improvement compare to the stock set-up? How was fitment? Thanks, dc -------------------- 4 -------------------- Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 09:45:46 -0700 From: Roger Baker <rbaker@velodyne.com> Subject: Re: UUC exhaust and Borla I have a UUC w/DTM tips & my overall impression is it's a great exhaust. Beautiful finish, very good welds, construction & sound. It may be just a tad loud if you drive on long trips and are "sensitive" or have an s/o in the car, but for me it's great. Since installing it, I have rec'd a few comments at the track about how great my car sounds. It probably makes a few more ponies too, but the main reason to change an M3 exhaust is for weight, sound & looks. The UUC must be 1/2 the weight of stock. Fit was good, but the hangers needed some bending to properly center it in the cutout. Overall, recommended & a simple install. -- Roger Baker bmw <m3lawdawg@yahoo.com> wrote: > Iam looking at putting an aftermarket exhaust on to my > 95 m3 and would like to know the opinion of the list, > of the UUC system, how does it sound and how was the > fit, and if any one is using the Borla cat back system > from Turner, same question. Or if you have an > opinion on who has the best system, you can email me > direct if needed. Thank you. > > Tony -------------------- 5 -------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 10:33:34 -0700 (PDT) From: S Lafredo <slafredo@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: UUC exhaust and Borla --- bmw <m3lawdawg@yahoo.com> wrote: > would like to know the opinion of the list, > of the UUC system, how does it sound and how was the > fit, an I have not seen this up close but it looks very nice. As for sound if you like it LOUD this may be a choice for you. How loud is it. Well 4 of us were driving back from Road Atlanta to Spartenburg at O'Fest last year. 1 stock, 2 AA Gen Is (now Gen IIIs) and a UUC. The UUC guy was in front of me by ~2 car lengths, I had my windows up w/the sunroof closed and the sound of his muffler was drowning out my radio. To each there own. > if any one is using the Borla cat back system > from Turner, same question. No, experience. > Or if you have an opinion on who has the best system I have an AA Gen II and love it. Not too loud and NO droning. Not what you want if you like that Harley sound. HTH. S __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get personalized email addresses from Yahoo! Mail - only $35 a year! http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -------------------- 6 -------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:18:47 -0400 From: "Dorffer, Rich" <RDORFFER@CleIndians.com> Subject: rear tire wear Paul, I agree if your example would hold true (in some cases it does and in some it does not) but there are benefits to having even tire wear (or similarly worn tires on all four corners). Significantly worn rears with like-new fronts can be a recipe for disaster in the rain. Other problems crop up when tires are discontinued (i.e., MXX3) and you can no longer get all four tires the same unless you replace them all at once and as tire technology improves. Otherwise, I generally agree with you ("does this extend wear") if events are perfect like you suggest ;-) The extension of wear is true for those that replace all four tires at the same time (even if the fronts are only partially worn). Regards, Rich Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 21:06:42 -0400 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: rear tire wear >>First comment: since your '96+ M3 comes with different wheels (7.5x17 front/8.5x17 rear) you are unable to rotate the tires. If your budget can handle buying another pair of 8.5x17 wheels you will significantly prolong your tire life by rotating them front/back.<< Hmmm...Does this really extend the wear? Let's see....my setup is the stock staggered one, so I dont rotate....Say I replace my rears at 20K, and my fronts at 40K. Then, after 40K, I will have replaced the rears twice, and the front once, for a total of 6 tires. I think if you look at an example of rotating every 10K miles, then you will be replacing your original rears at 30K miles instead of 20. At 40K miles, I think you will find you will have replaced the same 6 tires! This is assuming that at each 10K mile rotation interval, whatever tires have been on the rear have worn 1/2 and whatever has been on the front has worn 1/4. Go through rotations required to get you to 40K miles, and I dont think you will have saved anything...I think most you can say is that you will have evened out your tire wear, for potentially better handling, miniscule as it might be. --------------------------------------------------------- Paul Elliott '99 White M3; < 30K miles; Dinan stage II sc kit; Rotex pads; Steiger SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio -------------------- 7 -------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:32:47 -0400 From: "Luis Veras" <veras@tricom.net> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Race track is safer than street....(was Re: Sorry, but I just have ...) I apologize for not making myself clear enough. Don't misunderstand me, I am extremely conservative and all around a safe person. I have been to driving schools in the US and Europe, and know about the safety features of a closed track. But this street I'm talking about is almost just as good as a closed track (in terms of safety). It is a closed street used strictly (although not officially) for racing at night. Sure, there are no flags, no workers on the corners, and no ambulances standing by (although, there is a hospital right by). However, you do travel the "same line". During the day you can see the "shadow" marked by cars that race during the night. Also, this street crosses the "south sightseeing park" (like NYC's central park) through the middle. Therefore, it has park to the left, 12-16 feet of green separating from the opposing way, and park to the right. As a result, there are no pedestrians, goats (I assume this was a joke) or any other moving objects appearing from nowhere. You can always see ahead of other vehicles because there are no SUVs or trucks, anyone on that street after 10 PM is there to race. You will only meet other cars going the same direction you are, and going as fast as you are. This street has no potholes, or other irregularities. There's no risk of unprecedented things coming up. If you lose control and your car slides off, you will run off into the park (not crash into any buildings or houses, or a wall like on a race track). There are two small parts of it that is surrounded by rocks (so if your car slides at either of those points you will hit a rock wall), but it's only about a third of a mile on each occassion. Also, everyone there excercise safety precautions and good racing manners. For example, if at any point you need to stop, you turn on your intermittent lights, slow down, stay to your right and get into the green area. Everyone behind you will respect that. The only thing that it would need extra to be exactly the same as a race track would be the communication corner workers and a asphalted runoff area. It's a sweet piece of real-estate to run over and over. The area they close is about 6.5 miles long. So you get 11 miles (east-west is not the same as west-east, because they are separated) of unique racing space in a closed street that has 90% of the safety features a closed track, whereas in a race track you get maybe 1.5 to 2 miles. This street is becoming more and more used for racing at night, and it's probable (I sure hope so!) that they will declare it an official racing area, and will then add the necessary track features (such as communication towers and runoff area). But during the weekends it's closed for joggers, bikers (bicycles, not motorcycles) and rollerbladers, so I doubt that it will ever be available for racing during the day. Cheers :) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Skip Bogard" <skip.bogard@alumni.duke.edu> To: "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 11:23 AM Subject: [E36M3] Race track is safer than street....(was Re: Sorry, but I just have ...) > Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 11:18:16 -0400 > From: Skip Bogard <skip.bogard@alumni.duke.edu> > Subject: Race track is safer than street....(was Re: Sorry, but I just have ...) > > The most fundamental problem is that you were lacking a communication > system for reporting unknown conditions as you were driving. In this > regard, a race track is much safer than the street. > > A track has a corner worker at each corner. They are all wired together > with headsets to talk to each other. They try to "act as one." > > At the slightest hint of dangerous track conditions, they can black flag > the entire track in 1-2 seconds. It all comes to a halt at seemingly the > same time. > > You had no help. No corner workers...no communications system. This is > one of the top reasons many BMW & SCCA races & driving schools are > safer than street driving. There are others: > > On track, it is often safer than interstate or city driving because: > > 1. ...you are doing the same piece of real-estate OVER & OVER & OVER and...... > 2. ...you are all traveling pretty much the "same line". If someone > is "off the line", that is a problem you can see. Not on street. > Was the Lexus on the same line you were? I doubt it was consistent. > > On track... > 3. ...you don't have to worry about pedestrians. Not on street. > 4. ...you can drive off track if you need too (runoff area). Not likely on street. > 5. ...you have ambulances & medics standing by. Not on street. > 6. ...you have a communications system (flags/corner workers). Not on street. > > On track... > 7. ...you have fewer non-deformable objects (eg. poles) to hit. Not on street. > 8. ...in driving schools, you have two pairs of eyes in the car. > 9. ...everyone is [hopefully] going in the same direction on track. Not on street. > 10. ...you have a fenced in track area to keep Bambi out. Or in the Dominican > Republic...you have goats, right? You don't have this on street. > > On track... > 11. ...you can friggin' see ahead over the other vehicles 'cause they aren't SUV's... > 12. ...0% of the other drivers are DWI. Not on street. > 13. ...the track surface is well maintained (no potholes, steel plates, beer cans) > 14. ...all cars [including your own] have been recently tech inspected. > > Get it? The track is NOT the street. The skills are transferable, but the > positive conditions for your track driving experience are not. > > Thanks to Ron Buchalski for additions to my earlier list I wrote & posted in Jan 2000. > > - Skip > > Luis Veras wrote: > > > > Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 01:30:03 -0400 > > From: "Luis Veras" <veras@tricom.net> > > Subject: Sorry, but I just have to share this... > > > > So I started trying to beat my personal record at Cayetano Germosen street, > > here in Santo Domingo, Dom. Rep. It's a two way, two lane..........., > > ............... I believe driving that street is the next best thing to > > tracking. I had driven it before, but not like today, I did 4 full runs (4 > > west to east, and 4 east to west) trying to beat my record. My previous > > record was an average speed of 69 MPH (the posted speed limit it's 28 MPH > > because of the curves, so you can imagine how that street is), > > ...... So I started driving as fearless as I have never been, taking extreme > > risks (and I mean EXTREME risks) trying to pass this guy, and > > > I checked my OBC... my average speed was 76 MPH! I totally crashed my > > previous record! > > > > Sorry if I bored you, but I really had to share this. I've never driven as > > hard and fearless as tonight! Sure, I have gone at 150+ MPH in the highway, > > and done a lot of street racing, but today,................. > > > ************************************************************* > List Commands > UNSUBSCRIBE - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the mailing list. > DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. > GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). > > To issue a command/request to the server: > Send a message with the command you wish executed as the > subject of the message. > ************************************************************* > > > -------------------- 8 -------------------- Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 14:47:36 -0400 From: "Kevin M. Gregg" <kevingregg@home.com> Subject: visit to Tate BMW Annapolis, MD Hello- In my ongoing, part time, casual quest to locate the best BMW dealer in the metro DC/Balto area to service my 97 M3, I stopped by Tate BMW in Annapolis, MD at lunch today. The place was incredibly quiet and peaceful (no loud voices, no ringing phones, no loud showroom-wide intercom announcements, etc.) I met Will Mitchell in the Service Dept. He owns a late 80s M3 with 110K+ hard miles on it and a engine bearing problem of some kind. He was very friendly and helpful. He ran a report on my VIN showing some of the service done on it since it was new (coolant flush, brake fluid flush, oil service, etc.... not a complete service history, by any means!) I also found out the name & address of the first owner (who bought it back in Dec 96). Tate did not have a big backlog of work in the service dept.... I could have had a service appointment tomorrow, had I needed one. Here is what Tate BMW charges for a few services... coolant flush: $70 oil change with synthetic oil: $65 Inspection I: $350 Inspection II: $570 rotors/pads/etc for 4 wheels: $1038 ($600 or so is parts, about $300 for labor. They just finished a brake job for another M3 owner.) They had no 2001 M3s on the showroom floor. They've sold 3 of them in the recent past at or slightly above MSRP. I've also visited Tischer and Russel BMW in this area. What do you know about Tate BMW? Thanks, Kevin kevingregg@home.com http://members.home.net/kevingregg 1997 BMW M3 Estoril Blue coupe http://members.home.net/kevingregg/m3/ Columbia, MD -------------------- 9 -------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 14:13:23 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <mel.silva@pdq.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC exhaust and Borla + AA -----Original Message----- From: S Lafredo [mailto:slafredo@yahoo.com] Sent: Wednesday, June 06, 2001 12:43 PM <snip>... I have an AA Gen II and love it. Not too loud and NO droning. Not what you want if you like that Harley sound. HTH. S So, one question. Would the AA Gen III exhaust pass the SO test? Is my wife going to complain about my car being too loud? >M -------------------- 10 -------------------- Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:20:22 -0400 From: "Michael Lawrence" <95m3ltw@home.com> Subject: PTG M3 on ebay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/aw-cgi/ebayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=592094 811& r=0&t=0 I just wanted to pass on some info on this car. If anyone is really thinking about this car or knows someone that is, please warn them about what spares would cost. Someone had this car inspected and I can pass the info on, after I get the ok from them. it is a 3.0 not a 3.2 etc amoung other things that are wrong with the car Mike ************************************************************** Digest Commands UNSUBSCRIBE DIGEST - (in subject line) unsubscribes you from the digest. DIR - sends a listing of files available in the list's GET directory. GET filename1.ext,filename2.ext - sends the requested file(s). 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#7. RE: [E36M3] Re:  Replacement headlight from Bekkers - from Jim Bassett
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:05:27 -0700 From: Jim Bassett <jbassett@geysernetworks.com> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: Replacement headlight from Bekkers > Does anyone on the list have their E36/M3 headlight assembly > replaced from > Bekkiers (ellipsoid)? Bekkers has a set of ellipsoid for > about $450.00. > If so, would you share your experience as to how much > improvement compare to > the stock set-up? How was fitment? The Ellipsoid headlights are a huge improvement over the stock North America lights, IMO. I've had a set on ech of the 2 E36's I've owned. They are deeper than the stock light assemblies, but this isn't a problem unless you have a Dinan cold air intake (I have a JimC intake and there's no problem). I've got some info on my web site pertaining to the installation: http://members.home.net/jimbassett/bmw.htm, click on "European Ellisoid Headlights" on the left-hand menu. And Jim Powell has info on his site as well (with pictures!): http://www.apexcone.com/Lighting/EuroEllipsoids/EuroEllipsoids.html Hope that helps, Jim Bassett 1998 M3/4

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#8. race - from Mark Greene
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Date: Wed, 06 Jun 2001 16:12:12 -0400 From: Mark Greene <gsa@arpinintl.com> Subject: race I for one loved the post by Luis.... I don't want to die any more than the next person but part of the reason I bought this car was for the little surprise moments of adrenaline rush like this and just knowing that "I can if I want to". Mark

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#9. PTG M3 for sale - from Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 13:43:30 -0700 From: Marc.S.Edwards@QuestDiagnostics.com Subject: PTG M3 for sale Michael; Putting the e-mail address of the seller ( safjs@aol.com ) together with the name of a person in the following text copied and pasted from e-bay: "It went on to take 3rd place at the Nextel 250 at Homestead driven by Scooter Gable and Joseph Safina." It appears to me that Joseph Safina is selling this car. Interesting... owner, racer, racer buyer, racer seller? No, I'm not interested though it would make an interesting track car ;-Q Marc 95M3LTW enough track car for me thanks

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#10. RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC exhaust and Borla + AA - from Mel Silva
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Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2001 15:55:35 -0500 From: "Mel Silva" <mel.silva@pdq.net> Subject: RE: [E36M3] Re: UUC exhaust and Borla + AA This is EXACTLY what I wanted to hear!(read, whatever) Thanks, Mel Last, the SO does not even know I replaced the exhaust :-) It's that quiet..Until you step on it... Regards, Steve Boston Chapter Autocross Chair You asked> So, one question. Would the AA Gen III exhaust pass the SO test? Is my wife going to complain about my car being too loud?

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