E36M3 #1344

Sunday, June 03, 2001 17:33:41

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#1. What about the S54B32 - from Jonathan Caldito
#2. Re: USGP @ INDY - from tristar500@mac.com
#3. engine storage - from dHoleman@spooze.com
#4. Re: [E36M3] Bilstein Saved!! - from Andrew E. Kalman
#5. Re: [E36M3] engine storage - from Andrew E. Kalman
#6. Re: [E36M3] Bilstein Saved!! - from Paul Elliott
#7. People Stink! - from Wayne Miller
#8. Bilsteins - from Paul Elliott
#9. Street/Light Autox Brake pads? - from Paul Elliott
#10. Re: [E36M3] Bilsteins Coilovers - from John Van Houten

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#1. What about the S54B32 - from Jonathan Caldito
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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 10:36:06 -0400 From: "Jonathan Caldito" <jonnym3@hotmail.com> Subject: What about the S54B32 Ok, I just asked the parts dept. on the cost of the S54 engine. Its $10-$15k for a (short block I believe) and $1000 for the DME MS S54. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com

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#2. Re: USGP @ INDY - from tristar500@mac.com
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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 10:14:24 -0500 From: "tristar500@mac.com" <tristar500@mac.com> Subject: Re: USGP @ INDY I concur. Don't know the locations that well but we were in the middle of the main straight (between the pagoda and turn 1) halfway up on the infield side. Not a good place to be, don't even get a jumbotron to look at unless you look over your shoulder. Outside stands at turn 1 might just be the best place. Braking zone, some of the infield and a jumbotron. Of course the best place was the Mclaren suite on qualifying day. That was cool! As for a hotel, we avoided that and rented a RV and parked in the lot directly across from the speedway entrance. 5 minute walk and we were inside. Perfect! Dave > From: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Reply-To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 10:09:01 -0500 > To: E36M3 <e36m3@bmw-m.net> > Subject: [E36M3] E36M3 #1338 > > Place to avoid: anywhere in the middle of the main straight, unless you just > like snapping your neck trying to follow cars going by at 190 mph. Possible > exception: if you can see the pit lane action. > > One very good place: Northwest Vista, which is where Indy turn 4 joins the > main straight. Since the GP course runs in reverse, this area covers the > braking and passing zone into GP turn 1, plus you can see the next several > turns through the infield. You can also get a reasonable view of the cars > approaching all the way along the main straight.

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#3. engine  storage - from dHoleman@spooze.com
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Date: 3 Jun 2001 08:22:11 -0700 From: dHoleman@spooze.com Subject: engine storage Hi, I need to store my old M3 engine for a while and would appreciate some suggestions on proper storage. I have drained the oil and the coolant but I was wondering if there are any other recommended procedures for long term storage. Secondly, I have the engine on a stand right now but want to store it on a low cradle or rack. I want to store it lower to the ground but on a rack with wheels so I can move the thing around when I need to. Any sources would be appreciated. David Holeman www.racepad.com

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#4. Re: [E36M3] Bilstein Saved!! - from Andrew E. Kalman
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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 09:30:03 -0700 From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bilstein Saved!! Re: >Dinan used to offer custom valved Bilsteins on their suspensions (with the >bump stops trimmed), and I have that set-up. Although it was a few years >ago, I clearly recall my initial impression (and surprise) that Dinan's >shocks and springs (with strut hats swapped; sways and camber plates >followed, along with an X-brace and strut brace) was that the car rode >BETTER than stock -- tighter to be sure and perhaps a bit firmer; but, the >ride seemed more supple over irregular pavement (which I attributed to the >Bilsteins). And, yes, my car is my daily driver; it is NOT tracked and/or >auto-crossed (although I note that the roads in the SF Bay area are pretty >good). Slightly OT, here's a related data point: I have an E12 5'er with a Dinan Stage IV suspension with their custom-valved Bilsteins. 10 years and 100,000 miles later (!), the car still handles great, the shocks settle after one bounce, and frankly, it still feels like a new suspension. No, it hasn't been tracked, but it hasn't been pampered either ... -- ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com

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#5. Re: [E36M3] engine  storage - from Andrew E. Kalman
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Date: Sun, 03 Jun 2001 09:29:46 -0700 From: "Andrew E. Kalman" <aek@pumpkininc.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] engine storage Re: >I need to store my old M3 engine for a while and would appreciate >some suggestions on proper storage. I have drained the oil and the >coolant but I was wondering if there are any other recommended >procedures for long term storage. Secondly, I have the engine on a >stand right now but want to store it on a low cradle or rack. I >want to store it lower to the ground but on a rack with wheels so I >can move the thing around when I need to. Any sources would be >appreciated. The Star (the Mercedes Club magazine) has had several excellent discussions on this topic. From what I recall, one thing you definitely should do is spray a preservative (e.g something longer-lasting than WD-40) into each cylinder to prevent rusting of the cylinder walls. You should seal off the intake and exhaust ports -- might be a good idea to put a large dessicant bag just ahead of the throttle body -- and tie a string to it so you don't forget abut it later! Since you've drained the coolant, that's fine. If you still have the fuel system (injectors, fuel lines, etc.) on it you'll want to ensure that they are truly devoid of gas. Basically, you need to remove the chemicals that cause problems (water because of corrosion, fuel because of deposits), and minimize condensation in the engine due to external temperature swings -- that's why sealing it and using dessicant are recommended. Also, since it's a long block, you may want to dress the belt(s) with some preservative, or remove the belt(s) altogether. Also, I think you could have left the oil in there ... -- ______________________________________ Andrew E. Kalman, Ph.D. aek@pumpkininc.com

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#6. Re: [E36M3] Bilstein Saved!! - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:52:10 -0400 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bilstein Saved!! Thanks Bora, but that wasnt really the point of my question...It was, after just 28K miles, does the list think that most roadworthy M3s are in need of new dampers? --------------------------------------------------------- Paul Elliott '99 White M3; < 30K miles; Dinan stage II sc kit; Rotex pads; Steiger SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bora Akyol" <akyol@akyol.org> To: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com>; "E36M3" <e36m3@bmw-m.net> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2001 4:50 PM Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bilstein Saved!! > Or you could get the Koni's from TC Kline, GC or Dinan and completely avoid > the poorly engineered Bilstein struts. > > > > > Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 20:46:18 -0400 > > From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> > > Subject: Bilstein Saved!! > > > > Lowell, > > > > Congrats on finding your bump stop problem, and fixing your ride.... > > > > You said the stock dampers are gone after 30K miles...I'm at 28K, and am > > wondering, should I replace mine with Bilsteins now? > >

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#7. People Stink! - from Wayne Miller
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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 18:01:38 -0400 From: "Wayne Miller" <M3@waynemiller.com> Subject: People Stink! I am sorry for the title but I just don't understand how people can do some things that they do. On Friday night, I parked my car on the streets of NYC because it was raining and I got a spot 4 blocks closer than my garage. I figured that people don't steal cars on rainy nights, right? I have parked it on the street overnight many times before without a problem - not this time. When I went to leave on Saturday morning, I noticed that the hood was partially open and there were a bunch of wires sticking out. When I pressed the alarm button, no sound. I then found that the driver's side door lock was punched in. I opened the hood to find a bunch of wires by the passenger side headlight all pulled out of where they were supposed to be. After looking around in the car, I noticed that although the stuff was removed from the glove compartment and door compartments, it was all there, including the V1 and my sunglasses, except for my owner's manual. I opened the trunk and found that they stole my spare tire! When I put it all together, my theory is that the thief wanted my BMW forged wheels but saw that I had wheel locks (the BMW ones). He (I will assume that it was a he but who knows...) then punched open the door and set off the alarm. He opened the hood and tried cutting the wire by the siren that was just spooled up. It turns out that that wire was the silly parking light wire from the Euro lights that I never connected to anything but wrapped it around the siren just to hold it. At this point he just reached in and grabbed the harness and pulled REALLY hard. He broke the connector on the back of the light, pulled out the fog light wires, broke the connector on the AC unit and generally made a big mess. He did find the siren connector and disconnected that too. Next, he looked all over the car for the lock key, which wasn't in the car. I think that stealing the spare was a last resort. Overall, it could have been MUCH worse as only a small part of the door and some of the wires were damaged - no broken glass, no other cut wires, no pee on the seats, etc. but I still feel so violated. I reported it to the police because I will file a claim with the insurance company tomorrow. Today, I was able to get the headlight working by jumping some of the wires together. In other news, my ASC+ABS lights started going on sporadically yesterday too. I can get them to go off but turning off the ignition but they eventually come back on again. Dan, did you get an answer for this? -Wayne

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#8. Bilsteins - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 18:05:25 -0400 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: Bilsteins With all this talk about the Bilsteins and their ride in our M3s, am I correct in assuming we are talking only about the Bilstein sport model? Dont they also make a road going model for aggressive but street driving? Is that model called 'HD'? Would this street worthy model if the car isnt to be raced, cure some of the ride issues we've been talking about, when used with stock springs? --------------------------------------------------------- Paul Elliott '99 White M3; < 30K miles; Dinan stage II sc kit; Rotex pads; Steiger SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio

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#9. Street/Light Autox Brake pads? - from Paul Elliott
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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 18:08:57 -0400 From: "Paul Elliott" <pelliott@rcn.com> Subject: Street/Light Autox Brake pads? >>What's the best brake pad to go with for fairly aggressive street driving and some periodic autox<< You'll hear the same old favorites, but I'm going to add Rotex semi metallics to the mix...Unlike Metal Master, they work well hot or cold, and dont squeel. They're well made with chamfered edges, bite as well as stock, but are clean, quiet, and relatively rotor friendly...You can get em from Randy at Brake Warehouse in South Carolina for around $70 / set of 2. --------------------------------------------------------- Paul Elliott '99 White M3; < 30K miles; Dinan stage II sc kit; Rotex pads; Steiger SS and Clutch Stop; Sound by Polk, Excelon, JLAudio

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#10. Re: [E36M3] Bilsteins Coilovers - from John Van Houten
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Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:33:06 -0500 From: "John Van Houten" <jvanhouten@ix.netcom.com> Subject: Re: [E36M3] Bilsteins Coilovers > So, I compared the rebound rate for the rear Bilstein Sports with their > PSS-9 kit. 1,855Nm vs a range of 1,200Nm and 1,600Nm. So, the Bilstein > Sports gets the springs back or "react" quicker. Is this why many of us feel > the bouncy ride at the rear when we ride on less smooth roads? I'm sure it > is not as simple as that since shock compression rates, spring rates, car's > natural frequency all play a role in ride comfort. Interesting, the range for the Bilstein Group N Adj. coilover kit is higher than either setup. I was beginning to wonder the differences between the Grp N kit and the PSS-9 given they seem very similar (same adj. method). Does anyone even sell this anymore? Turner has a Bilstein Group N kit, but it is non-adj I believe. Just curious... In any case, the adj Group N's are really nice for the track, but a little stiff for the street. John

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